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Muscle-Building Workout and Diet


In an effort to not have challenging conversations in this day and age It’s like when you do you like whatever’s best for you. But then what if best for you is actually harmful to yourself and/or others My Health is a top priority in my life You never know how bad you feel Until you start feeling better than you’ve ever felt in your life and I’ve been on both ends of the spectrum and damn it’s very different to now being like Really focused on the mind body and soul like really having all parts just as equal as the other For me, I am a cancer survivor And so my entire life now is about making sure that I have a life, you know to continue So yeah I was diagnosed with lymphedema at age 3 which affects the circulation For me through my legs and feet. So health for me has always been at the top of my mind because if I don’t take care of my body like my I could have an amputated foot or leg So it’s nothing that I play around with all of my family almost has suffer from diabetes, heart disease and stuff like that So that’s why I’m extra conscious about my health because I don’t want to come down with any of those diseases I have a regular workout routine I’ve been working out consistently since I was 19 years old I used to work out two hours a day, but then I realized that’s way too long so now my workout session that would wait for about 45 minutes and then The rest is stretching and cardio and I spent a lot of time stretching because it allows me to get in the zone Kind of like a meditation of sorts It’s all mental, like, I go to the gym or workout or do something kind for my body in forms of movement every day Because it keeps me sane. Like if I don’t go there then I feel like something’s missing. And I get a little bit depressed Singing all by myself back there. I was going to the gym regularly every day, for like, six months and then my life shifted I lost my father a lot of things happened in my life that umm threw off my whole routine and so the point when when I was going to the gym so regularly I felt like my brain felt happier like I’ve gotten that feeling back in other ways I have no desire in me to change my body in any way. I like my buckets a little bigger. No, no, not at all See this is where we’re gonna get because I will tell you not every big person wants to be small I am conscious about what I eat My mom had me in Weight Watchers in junior high. Like so my relationship with food and what I’m putting into my body has been like completely- can we curse? Fucked up like since the very beginning. I’ve had a severe sugar addiction since I was a kid and like the binge eating like it makes you feel like everything- I can’t have this. This is an enemy. So when I see it, like you have it I’m like, oh, I want to eat it all. Every day, I wake up. I have a green smoothie I’m always very conscious of like what I’m putting into which I think is- I’m going to say the controversial statement. I think is something that people would never think is true based off the size of my body There’s so much studies that are coming out like in terms like your microbiome, like the microbiome that you have like you can literally eat green smoothies and eat like everything you’re supposed to be eating, and not lose the weight because we have an imbalance in your microbiome and like and then people who are thin, they’re just really thin but they eat McDonald’s every day But they don’t realize is how much they’re clogging their arteries and they die of heart attacks more than quote-unquote big people. I received negative feedback about my body growing up I would have people, like some family members be like “Oh, you look a little heavier than you did last year” and then other family members that were a lot more direct like “When are you going to lose the weight?” and it’s been like that I would say my whole life and then we got to a point where I was getting compared to my little sister who’s like beautiful and thin and it’s like- it is so hard not to compare yourself to other people It is so hard to have a healthy relationship with food and with fitness and just with other people and it became so difficult to break out of that and to really love who I am inside. My stepmom would take, like, if I had a wrapper of chips like in my room like she would put it on top of like, my dresser and say like “I’m not the reason why you’re fat, this is” like it was all very like but it was super crazy psychological because I was like, we’ve never even discussed this before I’m from Texas. We all eat soul food. So everybody was eating the same shit food So with my mom 250 pounds, my brother 350 pounds But I saw that I was eating the exact same foods and I didn’t even know until I got around Los Angeles, health conscious people. I’m like “What? What you mean to tell me you don’t have freaking bacon cheeseburger every single day?” I didn’t know So when you got to like- what triggered it in your head that said “Oh this to me is the right way for me to look now?” I wanted to be a model the idea that you wanted to become a model and the only idea of model to you, meant being thin or fit or whatever that beat means, all I saw because it wasn’t as popular like plus-size wasn’t popular back then We’re not, it’s 18 years old It’s definitely not popular But it’s still it’s still opened up way more than The conversation I will say is much more broad now I feel like we’re we’re able to talk about these things a lot easier now than we were before but What the actual way that the industry treats plus-sized models is totally different This question makes me very passionate. This is really big for me because I’ve been like, come forth, from other body-positive influencers But I feel like that messages as other people put out are very dangerous to a young woman who thinks that it’s okay I don’t care what size you are It’s not okay to sit and eat cheeseburgers and ice cream all day, like that has nothing do with your size I think there’s a difference between acceptance and agreement So like you can accept your body and be in disagreement with the health situation that you have, right? We hear fit experts always saying “Be skinny, lose weight!” That’s the healthy way to do it But we never say- at least we don’t say “be fat because it’s better for your heart” or “it’s better for your soul” It’s better for your you I’m gonna say even what you just said like body acceptance versus body agreement like to you you might see one of us and be like Oh, they love their- accept their bodies, but I’m sure they don’t agree with what it looks like I mean, I wouldn’t know unless I talked with someone but like whatever the numbers like whatever like is coming up in terms of like, you know, when you go to the doctor, like at the end of the day But even as fit people, when you see a person who is overweight or fat or obese, however you whatever term you want to use What’s the first thing happens in your head? Do you think like “Oh, like it’s great that they accept themselves, but they could use to lose weight” or what is your first thought? My very first thought; no one’s like born that way. So you you like there’s habits and things that you observe But you actually can be born with that . We could eat the exact same thing and be 2 different people Parenting and stuff like that. I didn’t really know what to expect today I didn’t know how the body positive individuals were gonna come across I didn’t know if they were for a healthy lifestyle or not But I think it’s beautiful that you guys acknowledge how important it is to keep yourself healthy Do I feel like there are people in the body positive community that say “Well, I’m just happy being fat and I’m just gonna lay down and just do that.” Yeah, absolutely Absolutely. I Fat pride, hashtag fat pride is like was something that was going on. It’s just funny big buzzword everyone You said something at some point that body positivity and like health and stuff is different. Like is that what everybody? Thanks The actual body positive community was created to give a platform to bodies that have been marginalized in our society. That’s what it was actually created for, big body, big disabilities What are you different races and I want to scream because I’m like “actually this is not meant for you this is meant for bodies who who don’t have a voice.” The fitness community is the reason why the body positive community exists and I think that as a community, it’s important for you guys to be a little bit more inclusive. People come up to me I think we really did find a middle ground But we did I think we all realize it. It’s like not it’s not this line. That’s Riding it you go out Hey guys. Jason from Jubilee here. We hope you enjoyed another episode of Middle Ground Honestly, this is one of our favorite series to make and we hope you enjoyed too Let us know in the comments below what you think about this issue and if you agree or disagree with anyone? 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100 thoughts on “Can Body Positive & Fitness Enthusiasts Find Middle Ground?

  1. I had a wave of depression and blew up to 150kg and looking at myself made me feel worse.
    So I worked harder and a few waves of depression here and there, but I’ve gone down to 111kg and my goal is 95-85kg.
    And now I’ve been able to speak more and get out of my comfort zone.
    Hopefully I can get a 6pack haha haha.

  2. What is a body positive? Being proud even though you’re overweight and unhealthy? Those people are mentally unstable and they need help. Their lifestyle and stubbornness is gonna get the health issues eventually. How do you not want to be fit and healthy?

  3. All it is, is people making excusing for why it's ok to be obese. Now if they have things like meds or diabetes they make it hard to loose weight but bottom line is you are putting yourself at increased risk for many many diseases and health risks like hearth attacks. It's not about being thin it's about being at a weight that keeps you from 9nset diseases like diabetes ECT.

  4. I would try harder to get skinnier or lose weight if I knew the right way's to I try but I don't get results I am kind of stuck. I have a thyroid problem I have had one since I was 10 8 years ago which makes me tired really tired even with pills and it doesn't help but now that my thyroid is calming down and its getting better I can now try this stuff any harder.

  5. This video is frustrating. There are so many things, mostly not in line with political correctness that should be asked and said. The body positivity side in some arguments was like "Let's not even go there" where THAT'S the point where you should go.

  6. Why didnt they let the man in blue tank top finish his speech, couldn't take that long. I feel like it would be a good response to "the fitness community should be made more inclusive"

  7. random spanish comment: estoy harta de leer que el señor obeso no puede estar realmente comiendo sano porque si así fuera no pesaría lo que pesa. No se pasen, creo que a estas alturas todos sabemos que no necesariamente porque comes sano ya bajas de peso. No todos los cuerpos funcionan así.

  8. Haven't watched the video. Just came in to say I really dislike this choice of topic. These things are not necessarily standing apposed to each other. You can be body positive and care about fitness. Saying you can't is actually very damaging to the way we view body weight and how we view what body positivity even is. That's just fucked up.

  9. The fitness side hardly got a word in without the body positive side cutting them off. That’s the problem with body positivity. EVERYBODY needs to hear their side and what they have to say yet they are so unwilling to give out the same respect to other people. You gotta give respect to get it 🤷🏼‍♀️

  10. probably the best episode I've seen. This group cliked together and had a much further understanding of themselves in relation to most of these episodes that I've seen (watched maybe 20 so far). Great content as always!

  11. To me, the issue is really simple.
    A) DO NOT BULLY ANYONE BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE OR APPEARANCE.
    B) In some cases, slightly overweight or slightly skinny IS THEIR HEALTHY SIZE.
    C) People can have many disabilities or different body functions that make it either impossible or 10x harder for them to, "look healthy"

    D) That said, we should not be celebrating unhealthy weights. Whether it be too skinny or too big. Unhealthy weights put a big strain on health care systems, and encouraging others to be fine with the fact that they're 100 pounds overweight or 50 pounds underweight only makes things worse. On a macro level, it impacts everyone. What these people need are: Support and help, mental and or physical care, to be treated like people (AKA, don't comment on their purchases or randomly call them out), and for you to mind your own business.

    In the end, ridicule is not the answer, neither is celebration. The answer is to treat them like people.

  12. The more i see these videos, the more i understand that nothing is really being said. They have enough time for a few people with different views to give a quick summary but its such a short video, nothing meaningful is accomplished.

  13. It's almost like the modeling industry relies on what and who is attractive so they treat plus sized different because more people tend to find thinner people more attractive

  14. i feel like this one was super hard to get around because the media has hyped these so called “body positivity” people up so much that i think they’re just afraid to say anything cause they’ll get attacked for it.

  15. I feel like people really do tend to forget that body positivity wasn’t about size really and much more about people with differences in their bodies in the way of scars or marks, difference in limbs and other things that people are born with or can’t control.

    The people using obesity in the same realm as being an amputee or something of the like is really off to me.

    Being overweight or too thin can happen to anyone. We all can have crappy habits or some condition or circumstances that make us heavier, but being obese or malnourished and spreading the message that other people should choose to be so is not ok.

    You should never encourage bad habits. Restricting, binging or any other form of unhealthy relationship with food is not something you should advertise.

  16. Body positively should be for…

    – disabled
    – amputees
    – burn victims
    – people with scars
    – people with deformities

    Not for lazy entitled self righteous narcissists

  17. I usually don’t comment, but this needs to be said;

    The reason they didn’t let the fitness people speak as much is bc they didn’t want to offend anybody who is overweight.
    However, the producers apparently decided the overweight people couldn’t possibly offend somebody fit, so they did this to avoid a controversial video.

    Sadly, this shut off the whole point of this video, to HAVE two different sides…

  18. I’m always wondering where I fit in, I play 3 sports (football,basketball,and baseball) and workout daily but I’m still overweight, not obese but overweight ,also fit enough to actually play in 3 high school sports( I’m 5’10 220 15 years old)

  19. I think both plus sized and regular models are a terrible influence on people, plus size can be healthy if you are to the skinnier side but if you are clearly unhealthy I don’t think it should be celebrated. Same goes for the standard model stereotype, many models suffer terribly do you how skinny they are resulting in an equally if not more unhealthy standard than plus sized models. Models should be in a range of shapes, yes but never in either extremes.

  20. I don't know why unhealthy people compare thin people with fit people. However, fit people work hard on their bodies while thin people just have a fast metabolism. but I'm not gonna say anymore than that because I don't want to be rude. I just want to point out how fit people shouldn't be classified as thin I been told that for so long until I put on some muscle.

  21. The lady in the pink top needs to stop interrupting people. She’s just making excuses for why she’s big. It’s unhealthy. Let the people who actually care about their health and their body talk.

  22. There are people without some limbs and health conditions but still do "regular" exercise and watch their diet so they stay fit. Unlike you body positive people who lie to yourselves and say "We CoUlD eAt tHE SaME ANd sTiLl Be oBEsE".

    THEN DON'T EAT THE SAME, REGULATE YOUR EATING HABITS

  23. Why is it that literally everyone in the body positive movement are so…. prickly? Like they are ready to come for even the smallest sliver of criticism. And people do use body positivity as an excuse. I used to – until I realised how badly it was affecting me

  24. “body positivity isn’t meant for people like you” … so you get to deem who gets to feel good about their bodies and who doesn’t?

  25. When Jubilee said “I have a regular work out routine” and that lady in the pink tank walked up💀. You know she’s lying 😂😂

  26. I dont think it was right to say the fitness community should be more inclusive because being a part of the fitness community means you advocate for fitness and actively pursue that. Its almost like trying to change the term "fitness" to apply to everyone which cant work because thats just not what it is. Body positivity is good, and I appreciate that these people acknowledge health but loving yourself does not mean you have to refrain from changing.

  27. This also doesn’t cover the shaming of fit men by people not in the fit community. Something commonly overlooked is that when a women pose with with little clothing to show off her progress she’s praised (yes some still do hate) but for the majority of men us showing off our progress or pride makes us a douche, self centered, attention seeking, or whatever else.

    This stigma does not apply in the fitness community anywhere in the world that I’ve seen. Typically in the gym the environment is to admire, compliment, and critique in a positive manner.

  28. They should've added a super skinny body positive person. Its hard for some people to gain weight so they have to accept and embrace it

  29. I hate to be that guy, cuz he seems really nice and genuine, but professional wrestling has the worst health outcomes of any sporting organization including the NFL. Almost certainly on steroids, he is probably less healthy than anybody there.

  30. What is the point of this episode? All six of them are body positive, and 3 of the 6 of them are fitness enthusiasts.

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